In this episode of The SEO Show, Michael and Arthur dive into the essential principles of 80-20 SEO, a concept that emphasizes focusing on the most impactful actions to achieve significant results in search engine optimization. Despite the challenges of recording from their home offices due to lockdowns, the hosts remain committed to delivering valuable SEO insights to their listeners.
We kick off the episode by discussing the importance of tracking and analytics. Michael emphasizes that without proper tracking tools like Google Tag Manager and Google Analytics, businesses are essentially flying blind. Understanding visitor behavior and conversion points is crucial for optimizing SEO efforts.
Next, we explore the significance of using user-friendly platforms like WordPress and Shopify, which simplify the integration of analytics and tracking. The hosts stress the importance of on-site optimization, highlighting that simply placing target keywords in title tags, H1 tags, and early in the copy can yield substantial results. They provide a straightforward example for podiatrists, illustrating how to effectively use location-based keywords.
As the conversation progresses, Michael and Arthur touch on the necessity of creating new pages to target additional search opportunities. They suggest leveraging tools like Ahrefs to identify low-hanging fruit keywords and competitor strategies, which can help businesses expand their online presence.
Internal linking is another critical topic discussed in this episode. The hosts explain how internal links help pass link equity to deeper pages and assist Google in understanding site hierarchy. They also address the issue of orphan pages—those that lack internal links—and the importance of ensuring all pages are interconnected.
The episode continues with a discussion on the technical aspects of SEO, such as the need for an SSL certificate and fast website performance. Michael and Arthur advocate for investing in quality hosting to enhance site speed, which is a significant ranking factor.
Finally, the hosts delve into the two main types of link building: foundation links and authority links. They explain that foundation links, which include web 2.0 profiles and directory listings, establish a solid base for a website's credibility. In contrast, authority links involve strategically acquiring links from relevant, high-quality sites to boost SEO performance.
Throughout the episode, Michael and Arthur emphasize that while the foundational aspects of SEO may seem straightforward, many businesses overlook them. By focusing on these key areas, listeners can significantly improve their chances of ranking well in Google search results.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts encourage listeners to subscribe and leave reviews to help spread the word about The SEO Show. They express their commitment to returning with more valuable content in the next episode, even amidst the ongoing challenges of lockdown.
00:00:00 - Introduction and SEO Services
00:00:19 - Welcome to the SEO Show
00:00:38 - Lockdown Podcast Setup
00:01:38 - 80-20 SEO Principle
00:02:15 - Importance of Tracking and Analytics
00:03:10 - Using WordPress or Shopify
00:04:16 - On-Site Optimization Basics
00:05:25 - Creating New Pages for SEO
00:06:46 - The Role of Internal Linking
00:08:47 - Understanding Orphan Pages
00:10:41 - Importance of SSL Certificates
00:12:53 - Site Speed and Hosting Choices
00:14:48 - Link Building Foundations
00:17:57 - Authority Link Building Strategies
00:19:58 - Conclusion and Next Steps
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INTRO: It's time for the SEO show, where a couple of nerds talk search engine optimization so you can learn to compete in Google and grow your business online. Now, here's your hosts, Michael and Arthur.
MICHAEL: Hello and welcome back to another episode of the SEO show. And it's a bit of a weird one this week because we are not in our nice studio. We're cooped up in our home offices on a makeshift setup. But we're still coming to you with that SEO knowledge because we've committed to doing this show every week. It's in our contracts and we're not going to fall short. So, how are you going, Arthur?
ARTHUR: I'm doing okay. All things considered, I'm doing good. Yeah. Keeping busy.
MICHAEL: We've finally given in to the lockdowns and we're not able to go to our studio anymore, so we're pretty much at home 24-7, so it's as exciting as that can be, I guess.
ARTHUR: Yeah, that's it. I mean, on the plus side, we don't have to drive to the studio, so that kind of works in our favor.
MICHAEL: True, true. But I like the drive, you know, listen to podcasts. Listen to the SEO show.
ARTHUR: Do a bit of thinking, yeah.
MICHAEL: But you know what, I guess the highlight of the lockdown obviously is going to be recording these podcasts, right?
ARTHUR: Yeah, for sure. We have no excuses now, basically.
MICHAEL: We should be able to bang out one episode after the other. But today we're just going to do the all-important topic of 80-20 SEO. Focus here and get banged for your buck. So what is that all about? We're really like anything in life. If you, you know, 20% of your investment is going to lead to 80% of the results you achieve. So in SEO, it's no different. You know, if you focus on a few key areas, you're going to get results and you don't need to worry about all the other noise because in the SEO world, there is a lot of noise about it.
ARTHUR: So much noise, so much noise.
MICHAEL: Yeah, do this, don't do that, depending on who you talk to.
ARTHUR: Exactly.
MICHAEL: Yeah. 80-20 SEO, we're saying do these things, you will get results. So in the world of 80-20 SEO. Tracking and analytics is probably where you want to start, right?
ARTHUR: For sure. So that's including making sure you have your Google Tag Manager or Google Analytics on your website, making sure that you're tracking all the visitors that come to your website, tracking all the conversion points. So contact form submissions, live chats, phone call clicks, because without that data, you don't know what's happening. Yeah, exactly.
MICHAEL: It's super, super important. You can't improve, you can't optimize, go back to the O in SEO, you can't optimize what you're not improving. I like that line, don't I? But it's true, you know, if you don't know what's going on with your site, you're flying blind, you don't know where the pages are getting traffic or where pages aren't getting traffic, you don't know how many conversions you're getting from SEO, so it's pretty obvious, have that tracking in place.
ARTHUR: And look, it's not too hard to implement. There's so many guides out there, so many YouTube tutorials, Google Analytics, Google Tag Manager, they're free. So there really is no excuse not to have tracking on your website.
MICHAEL: Yeah. And look, I guess one of the other points we have here is use WordPress or Shopify as you see in this most, you know, in 9 out of 10 cases, that's going to be the way to go. with an SSL certificate. But the good thing about WordPress and Shopify is that it's very easy to plug them straight into analytics or Google Tag Manager. So there's plugins and WordPress that allow you to do that. The same for Shopify. The idea being, you know, maybe for some business owners, it was a little bit daunting or intimidating trying to set up analytics in the past, but now it's really easy.
ARTHUR: It's adding a bit of code to your site, really.
MICHAEL: Yeah, and setting up the goals as well on the analytics side.
ARTHUR: Yeah, that can be a bit trickier depending on the site, but you know, like I said, there's so many tutorials out there. You can spend half an hour just educating yourself and it shouldn't be too hard to add tracking to the site.
MICHAEL: Yeah. So Shopify, very easy. WordPress, use something like contact form 7 or gravity forms. There'll be a thousand guides online. You can't go wrong. So, let's assume you've got all that in place, then your website itself. On-site optimization, a very big pillar of SEO. You know, there's all stuff you can do around keyword research and looking for LSI keywords and synonyms and all sorts of stuff, but really to simplify it down to that 80-20 SEO, the old keep it simple, stupid principle. is really you just got to take your target keyword and put it in the title tag, the h1 tag and early on in the copy for your important pages like your homepage, your category page.
ARTHUR: That's it.
MICHAEL: As simple as that. You don't even need to do research really, do you? Just go with what makes sense.
ARTHUR: No, I mean, keyword research is great later on, but a lot of the time we find that we spend a lot of time doing keyword research. And by the time we're done, you know, we find that the most obvious keywords are the keywords we're going to be targeting anyway. So making sure that you have them, you know, in your H1 and your page title and early on in the copy on the page, um, to start off with and then supplement it with keyword research later on. I think that's the way to go.
MICHAEL: Yeah. So an example, let's say you're a podiatrist. then really it's as simple as using podiatrist and then whatever location you're in in your title tag. So it might be podiatrist Surrey Hills in your title tag on your homepage. Then you use that keyword in the H1 tag, use it in the page copy. And if you repeat that process for every page on your site, you know, the next one might have sore heel treatment, Surrey Hills on the sore heel page. It's pretty straightforward. If you are just doing that across every page on your site, that is giving Google a lot of what it needs to see. That's it. Very exciting stuff. Let's move on then. We're making it sound so easy. Look. The foundations are easy, really, aren't they? It's when you start getting super competitive, link acquisition, maybe sometimes the technical side of things. But for the purposes of 80-20 SEO, the reason it sounds so easy is a lot of websites, they don't, as easy as it sounds, they don't do this stuff.
ARTHUR: That's it. A lot of the clients that come on board have all this stuff, you know, missing.
MICHAEL: So we'll normally start, you know, and when a client first comes on board, we'll run them through these main points when they first start just to get a baseline for where they're at. But anyway, moving on, this one might seem obvious as well, but create new pages to target new search opportunity. That helps, right?
ARTHUR: Definitely always helps. So there's a bunch of ways you can do this. If you're a service-based business and you generally operate in a specific area, creating location pages, targeting the suburbs around that area, they'll be far less competitive than Let's just say Podiatrist Sydney, so if you're a podiatrist in Parramatta, finding the suburbs that you want to target and creating pages around those. Looking at low-hanging fruit, so what I like to do is look in AHRFs and see what keywords the client's already ranking for and targeting specific keywords that are still valuable but are ranking thereabouts, bottom of page one, top of page two. and building content and pages around those keywords.
MICHAEL: You can also put your competitors into Ahrefs and just have a look at their, you know, the top pages on their site and see what keywords they're ranking for and if they are ranking for keywords that you're not, then go create content and pages around those themes as well so that you have a chance to compete with them.
ARTHUR: That's it. And look, a lot of people want to, you know, go for their head target keyword first, the competitive keyword, and that's great, but it's going to take time for you to rank for that keyword. So finding these low hanging fruit keywords is, you know, definitely a great strategy when you're starting off.
MICHAEL: Yep, absolutely. So moving on, you've got your pages created, all the content on them. One thing that I see businesses not do so well is internal linking as well. So when I say an internal link, that is a link in the body copy, so the text on a page from that page on your site to another page on your site. Now, we've spoken a lot about how external links, so link building is super important, it's a massive pillar of SEO, but we haven't really spoken that much about the importance of internal links, but they are pretty important as well, right? They're very important. So why is that?
ARTHUR: I thought you were going to drop the knowledge there. I will, I will. So for two reasons. First and foremost, it helps pass link equity to deeper pages on the site. So when Google crawls the content on the page, it passes the link juice that we build to the deeper pages and those pages therefore benefit and you should start seeing an increase in the visibility of those pages. But it also helps Google understand the hierarchy of the site. So if you're linking from the homepage to the category page and then from the category page to a deeper page or a product page, Google can start to understand how the site is structured and therefore will benefit you basically, help you rank, help all the pages, deeper pages rank.
MICHAEL: Yeah. You can even use, like when we talk about external link building, anchor text. You know, if you overdo it with the anchor text, that can be bad from a, you know, Google visibility point of view. Excuse me, but. With internal linking, you can be a bit more aggressive with the anchor text you use. So let's say, for example, you know that one of your category pages has a lot of external links pointing to it. You might put an internal link from that page to one of your service pages using the exact keyword you want to rank for. And as you said, we'll pass all of that link juice from those external links to that internal page that you're linking to. So what we recommend you do really is, again, you can use Ahrefs, run your site through it and find which pages on your website have external links pointing to them and then make sure that all of those pages are in turn linking to the most important pages on your site using a keyword-rich anchor text.
ARTHUR: That's it. Are you with me? I'm with you. And if you don't have Ahrefs, the homepage is generally the most linked to page. So making sure that So, at the very least having internal links from that homepage linking to your category pages.
MICHAEL: The other thing with internal links is it helps with getting pages indexed, you know, like, you know, you can always go to search console and submit a new page to be indexed, but having internal links on your site to a page also works because Google's crawler will come along and find it and find the page and index it.
ARTHUR: There have been times where I've started working on a client and they've had pages within their CMS that weren't linked anywhere on the site and they had no idea. Right, orphan pages.
MICHAEL: Orphan pages, that's it. Yeah, well, I guess that's something to talk about, right? So, an orphan page is a page that exists that has no internal links. It has no parent pages linking to it. This is bad because from a Google point of view, this page is just sort of floating around on its own. It's not really benefiting from the, I guess, the links flowing into your site externally. So you want to make sure that all pages on your site can be clicked to from somewhere else on the site. So using tools like Screaming Frog and the like to try and identify orphan pages is another thing that can be done. We're getting a bit outside the realms of 80-20 SEO here, but I guess the general gist is, you know, internal links are important and you want to be making sure that you are linking where it makes sense to other pages on your site. And a lot of businesses don't do that. They just throw up content and don't ever spend any time linking. You know, in WordPress, Shopify and the like, super easy. It's just like using Word. You can just insert a link visually. Don't need to know code. Any business owner can do it. So moving on. We touched on it before, you know, using WordPress or Shopify as your CMS is going to be the way to go most of the time. The other thing that's very easy to do is add an SSL certificate, whether you're on, well, if you're on Shopify, you should be able to get that anyway. If you're on WordPress, most hosts these days let you add an SSL certificate for free. Really, there's no reason to have a site that isn't secure. So that's just a site that has HTTP in the address without the little padlock in the address bar. It's a ranking factor to have a secure site. Google have said it. It's free. So you need to do it. It's like 30 seconds of work. Yeah. Moving on. The other thing is your site needs to be fast. So we've spoken about this a lot, but we speak about it because it's important. And again, it comes down to your hosting choices. If you're a business, if you have some sort of a budget to, you know, invest in your business, invest a little bit in fast hosting.
ARTHUR: Yeah. A lot of people skimp out on that.
MICHAEL: Yeah. And there's no reason to because you're talking a few hundred bucks a year for a really good host, really fast site. Google likes fast sites. People like fast sites. I like fast sites, you like fast sites. Very much, yes. And when it comes down to it, if your site is really slow and your competitors is fast and everything else is equal, the fast site is going to do better in Google.
ARTHUR: That's right. And I guess going back to what you said with WordPress and Shopify, there's plenty of plugins out there that can help speed up your site.
MICHAEL: Yeah. So WordPress, there's caching plugins, there's plugins that strip out all of the bloat in WordPress. There's a lot of stuff. Like all you have to do is search a guide, you know, WordPress speed optimization, you'll be able to make some big changes to your site that have big impacts. That's it. But always make a backup of your site. Oh, yeah. You know what? We should probably… This isn't 80-20 SEO, but as a rule, when you're choosing a host, have a host that does backups or use a third-party backup and sort of WordPress maintenance site, right?
ARTHUR: Yeah, and having staging. So, if you're going to be making wholesale changes, you do it on a staging server, not on a live site. And once you're done and tested at all, you know, push it live. But yeah, so many times there have been situations where we've been working on a live site without a staging server and things go wrong. They do go wrong. Absolutely.
MICHAEL: So, super important. Particularly if you're like a business owner just sort of playing around, maybe not doing this every day, it's very easy to break a site.
ARTHUR: Yeah, we've learnt that the hard way.
MICHAEL: All right, so all of that stuff is, you know, your site, it's the on-site optimization, it's a technical optimization. The last part, the biggest pillar of SEOs we've spoken about a lot is the link building, the external link building side of things. So, really there's two parts to this. There's first, there's what we call building foundation links. So what are foundation links?
ARTHUR: So that's building links on web 2.0 profiles, citations, directories, basically, you know, branded links that you can acquire quite easily, um, that help Google the basically, uh, a signal to Google that you're a legitimate business and making sure that you're building out these profiles and matching up all the information. So, uh, it matches up with information on your site. Um, so when you say information, So like all your address, your phone number, your website URL, your business name. And those links are foundation links, they're branded links and they lay, I guess, a foundation which is why they're called foundation links for you to actually go out and do more targeted link building.
MICHAEL: Yeah, so they're the types of links that every business website should really have. Most of the time the anchor text is either the URL of your website so that you know www.whatever.com.au or the brand name of your business. So it can make your anchor text profile very natural with all those types of terms. It helps Google, yeah, as Arthur said, Google will understand that you're a legitimate business. It can actually help your SEO, your local SEO performance, having those types of links in place. But the reason we really like them is, it is that foundation to then go and build authority links that will actually move the needle with your ranking. So, you know, spend the first couple of months working on your SEO link building on building out those foundation links. The only investment really as a business is your time. If you don't want to spend any money, you can just spend a lot of time creating these profiles and directory listings. Often, there's no cost involved to build those out.
ARTHUR: No. Like you said, you can spend half a day or an afternoon. There's plenty of lists out there that you can find online.
MICHAEL: It just starts running the local digital. If you set business directories, Australian business directories, one of our articles should be at the top. There's sort of 50 or so Australian ones if you're in Australia that you can go out and build right away. So there's a starting point for you.
ARTHUR: It's a good afternoon, good weekend, crack open a beer and start building directories.
MICHAEL: Yeah, really make that lockdown time fly.
ARTHUR: Yeah. But that's a good opportunity actually, lockdown. If you find that you have nothing to do, start building foundation links.
MICHAEL: Yeah, you might discover this passion for SEO that you didn't know you have once you start getting stuck into some directory link building. Unlikely, probably not. But the thing is you do need to do this stuff. And you only need to do it once. Once it's done, it's done. But it is the foundation to then build on, to sort of scaffold on with your authority link building. So, Arthur, tell me a bit more about authority link building.
ARTHUR: So authority link building, unlike foundation link building is actually going and cherry picking sites that you would like to place a link on. So sites which are super relevant to your business. So if you're a plumber, you know, home DIY sites, renovation sites, and sites basically that are relevant to your business, and then placing content on that site with a link back to your website in order to pass some of that link equity from that site to your site.
MICHAEL: Cool. Okay. And, um, the important thing with authority links is you need to be, you can't just go out and get any type of site, right? You need to be looking at the quality of them. They need to.
ARTHUR: Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So there's so, so many different things you need to look at, uh, you know, the domain rating or domain authority, looking at the trust flow and citation flow. So using different, the relevance is a big one. Um, just looking at it on face value, you know, a lot of these sites, um, might appear spammy. So just having a quick look through the site and having a look at the content that they post, making sure that it gets traffic as well and that it's indexed is super important.
MICHAEL: Yep. Yep. And look, this part is the part that takes a lot of time. It's probably not something that you'll just knock out in an afternoon while in lockdown. It takes months and months and months of ongoing work. And look, all of the stuff we spoke about initially, like the onsite optimization, technical stuff, foundation links, That's easy enough. The authority link, so is really where the needle is going to move from an SEO point of view. And with the 80-20 principle, most of that 80% of results are going to come from this, whatever percentage the link building is, you know, is where the most of the results are going to come from in any competitive industry. So it's really where you can stand out from the competition and make or break your SEO campaign. So it is important that you're doing it strategically and that there is a bit of planning and thought behind the types of links you're getting. Investing the time in it does take a lot of time, but I guess good things come to those who put in the work and the effort. So that very much is true on the link building front. But really, look, there's no point going on about this too much longer. They are the 80-20 principles of SEO. If you're getting most of this stuff right with your website, you're going to have a better time in the Google search results than most of your competition. So we hope you enjoyed this first podcast from home episode of the SEO show. The lockdown edition. Yeah, lockdown edition one. We'll be back with another lockdown edition next week. In the meantime, if you've enjoyed it, please subscribe, give us a little review, whatever you can do to help us get this in the ear holes of more business owners, it would be much appreciated. Until next week, have a good one. See ya. See ya.